The bold
Y marks a quality offered by the technology (Hubzilla vs. Nextcloud) while the other one doesn't offer it.
Data stored on Hubzilla
| Data type | (dis)playable in the Web UI | editable in the Web UI | (dis)playable on remote machine outside webbrowser | editable remotely offline |
|---|
| CalDAV events calendar | Y | Y | Y | Y |
| CalDAV task list | n | n | Y (1) | Y |
| CardDAV address book | Y | Y | Y | Y |
| Photos (2) | Y | n | Y | n |
| Hubzilla metadata of Photos (3) | Y | Y | n | n |
| Hubzilla wiki | Y | Y | n | n |
| Hubzilla website | Y | Y | n | n |
| Hubzilla article | Y | Y | n | n |
| Hubzilla cards | Y | Y | n | n |
| Hubzilla private messages | Y | Y (4) | n | n |
| Bookmarks | Y | Y | n | n |
| .pdf | Y | n | Y | n |
| .txt | Y | n | Y | n |
| .svg | Y | n | Y | n |
| Audio/video (5) | Y | n | Y | n |
(1) synronizing data between two remote machines is possible!
(2) tested with .jpg and .gif
(3) title, tags, orientation. The orientation is really just metadata, it doesn't affect the photo file.
(4) compose; delete
(5) tested with Firefox 61.0.1: .mp3 and .mp4 can be played. .3gp, .flv and .mkv cannot be played.
Data stored on Nextcloud
| Data type | (dis)playable in the Web UI | editable in the Web UI | (dis)playable on remote machine outside webbrowser | editable remotely offline |
|---|
| CalDAV events calendar | Y | Y | Y | Y |
| CalDAV task list | Y | Y | Y | Y |
| CardDAV address book | Y | Y | Y | Y |
| .txt | Y | n | Y | Y |
| Photos | Y | n | Y | Y |
| IMAP mails | Y | Y | Y | Y |
| IMAP notes | Y | n (6) | Y | Y |
| Bookmarks | Y | Y | n | n |
| .pdf | Y | Y (8) | Y | Y |
| .txt | Y | Y | Y | Y |
| .csv | Y (7) | Y (8) | Y | Y |
| Audio/video (5) | Y | n | Y | Y |
| Etherpad/Ethercalc | Y | Y | Y | n |
(6) deleting is possible
(7) not formatted though
(8) with add-on
The
Nextcloud app store lists furthermore apps which promise online (dis)playing and editing of draw.io-files, mindmaps, a password manager and a ebook reader. I didn't test them though. I did't check neither if offline editing of the used data types would be possible. But it would be worth thinking about bringing those features to Hubzilla.
Data types missing on both Hubzilla and Nextcloud
Out of offline editable data which can be neither (dis)played nor edited yet on both Hubzilla and Nextcloud, I mention those which I find interesting (non-exhaustive):
[* ] Anki cards package (for learning languages, GNU Affero General Public License. A syncing service including online displaying/editing is offered by ankiweb.net.)
[* ] Tiddlywiki (If syncing and offline editing of the native Hubzilla wiki would be impossible). But it looks like syncing is not a feature of Tiddlywiki until now: Saving after editing your html-file doesn't overwrite the file, but forces you to download a new html-file.
Needs
Recently I've been on a 8 hours ride on a train in a country where I have no cellular carrier data plan, and the WiFi offered by the rail service which I expected to use was turned off on that train. Thus I wasn't able to work on my wiki which is stored in #
Hubzilla. This is just one use-case for the need of having a syncable #
offline copy of a file stored in Hubzilla. Others cases would be i.e. when working with my laptop somewhere in the nature where there's no carrier network (it's actually what I am longing for these days since it's so hot in the city). To avoid misunderstanding, I like to mention here that #
syncronizing is not the same as importing/exporting.
I dare to give a simple statement: In the chart about #
data types in Hubzilla each field should contain a green
Y (=yes), except for image/audio/video editing. This chart will help developing the necessary apps or changing the data organization. It summarizes my evaluations of the enabled features on hub.disroot.org. I know there are other features that can be enabled, but I couldn't test them (I don't run my own server). I'm not aware of a list of existing features/plugins/apps. (Is there a such list?)
In the second chart, I added the same information for #
Nextcloud (non-exhaustive; just main data types for comparing reasons). In
this discussion @
Mike Macgirvin brings up the vision of turning "all the extra features etc. into apps" similar to Nextcloud. When getting closer to Nextcloud in terms of features, Hubzilla needs to become competitive in terms of features. Together with the nomadity and the superiority in privacy, this will make Hubzilla unbeatable.
Please comment below about if you agree or don't agree with my statement and my evaluation (if necessary case-wise).
A related question I'm wondering about is:
Is the synchronizing frequency depending on the server? If yes, Is it set by the hub administrator, or can it be set by the cannel user?
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